The OldMan is Still Alive

Flashback: Bogey, Before Bacall by Karina Longworth

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This episode was originally released on September 9, 2014. Listen to help prep for the next episode of our new season, The Old Man is Still Alive.

Humphrey Bogart is perhaps the most enduring icon of grown-up masculine cool to come out of Hollywood’s first century. But much of what we think of when we think of Bogart — the persona of the tough guy with the secret soft heart, his pairing on-screen and off with Lauren Bacall — coalesced late in Bogart’s life. Today we take a look at how Humphrey Bogart became Bogey, tracing his journey from blue blood beginnings through years of undistinguished work and outright failure (both in the movies and in love), to his emergence in the early 1940s as a symbol of wartime perseverance who could make sacrifice seem sexy. Finally, we’ll look at what it took to get him to take the leap into a fourth marriage that seemed to saved his life … until the world’s most glamorous stoic was faced with cancer.

Show Notes!

This episode was researched in part at the Warner Brothers Archives at USC. Thanks to Brett Service for inviting me to make use of the Archives and for helping me find what I needed. 

As I noted last week, each episode in this season has some connection to Hollywood Frame by Frame, the book I worked on which compiles previously unseen contact sheets of Hollywood still photographers. The admittedly rather flimsy connection to this week and next week’s episodes is that there are images in the book of Bogart and Bacall on the set of The African Queen. Pre-order the book now! </blatant plug>

There are a lot of biographies of Humphrey Bogart. I’ve flipped through many of them over the years, and I’m not sure there’s a single definitive or really great one. But, the most recent, Stefan Kanfer’s Tough Without a Gun, at least does the work of sorting through most of the previously published sources and comparing versions of the truth. Bogey by Clifford McCarty was one of the few film books my parents had around when I was a kid, and it was disappointing to open it during research for this episode and find that it had more pictures than text, although that also makes it pretty emblematic of the wave of Bogey image worship that sprung up in the late-60s and 1970s, which we’ll talk about in next week’s episode.

I became interested in the idea of exploring Bogey’s life before Bacall through City of Nets, Otto Friedrich’s beautifully written book on Hollywood in the 1940s. which dramatizes Bogart’s relationship with his third wife, Mayo Methot. Other sources relevant to this episode include By Myself by Lauren Bacall, Who the Hell’s In It and Who the Devil Made It by Peter Bogdanovich, Humphrey Bogart by Nathaniel Benchley, Bogart and Bacall by Joe Hyams, Slim: Memories of a Rich and Imperfect Life by Slim Keith with Annette Tapert. and finally, the chapter on Bogart in Louise Brooks’ Lulu in Hollywood. After his death, more than one Bogart biographer disputed Brooks’ impressions/interpretations of her old friend Humphrey Bogart, who she insisted was not the same man as the Bogey the world thought they knew. Of course, Brooks’ recollections are self-serving, but I always think first-hand accounts are interesting, especially when they challenge or add shading to a legend. And that’s the thing about Bogartography: for all that’s been written about the man, his life and his work, there still seems to be so little that we actually know. 

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Discography

"Intro" by The Big Sleep

"Fourty Four" by The Kills

"Dances and Dames" by Kevin MacLeod

"Out of the Skies, Under the Earth" by Chris Zabriskie

"Divider" by Chris Zabriskie

"Melody" by Serge Gainsbourg

"Love Like a Sunset" by Phoenix

"roughcut" by Tripwire

"Life Round Here" by James Blake

"Your Impersonation This Morning of Me Last Night" by Joan of Arc

"Rite of Passage" by Kevin MacLeod

"For Better or Worse"Chris Zabriskie

"Intelligent Galaxy" by The Insider

"Looped" by Jahzzar

"Shadow of a Doubt" by Sonic Youth

"Cyllinder One" by Chris Zabriskie

"Theresa’s Sound World" by Sonic Youth

"Will Be War Soon?" by Kosta T

"Prelude No. 21" by Chris Zabriskie

"Tikopia" by Kevin MacLeod

"Benbient" by canton

”Don’t Fence Me In,” by Cole Porter, performed by Frank Sinatra

John Ford 1962-1972 (The Old Man is Still Alive, Part 3) by Karina Longworth

John Ford in a still from Directed by John Ford, directed by Peter Bogdanovich

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Born in the 19th century, his career forged in the silent era, John Ford helped to invent the genre of the Western and still holds the record for the most Best Director Oscar wins of all time. Though he made films in all genres, and sometimes even tackled the same historical territory from different angles in different films, Ford had by the 1960s become synonymous with depictions of American history that honored maverick white men, while often villainizing, distorting or erasing Native Americans. In this episode, we will talk about the influence of Ford’s last masterpiece, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, and will look at Ford’s last two films, which to some extent feel like “mea culpas” for the offenses of his earlier career: the revisionist Western Cheyenne Autumn, and the female-centric adventure film 7 Women.

Still from Cheyenne Autumn, 1964, Warner Bros.

“Sidekicks and Savages,” nativeamericanroots.net, June 21, 2008

“John Ford’s Mythic West,” Victor A. Walsh, American History, February 2016

“When the Navajos Fooled John Ford,” Guillermo Altares, El Pais, February 20, 2024

“Screen: John Ford Mounts Huge Frontier Western,” Bosley Crowther, New York Times, December 24, 1964

“‘The Doddering Relics of a Lost Cause’ John Ford’s The Sun Shines Bright,” Jonathan Rosenbaum, Rouge, 2004

“Looking at Jane Fonda’s Decades of Activism and Protest,” Hannah Militano, L’Officiel, December 21, 2022

“Cheyenne Autumn,” Mark Ayala, New Beverly program notes, May 14, 2017

“John Ford Rides Again,” A.H. Weiler, New York Times, April 23, 1972

“John Ford 1895-1973,” Roger Greenspun, New York Times, September 9, 1973

“Wild Eastern,” TIME, May 13, 1966

“Facts About Ford,” Jenn Thornton, JohnWayne.com

“John Ford: The Last Frontiersman,” Ron Chernow, Ramparts, April 1974

“John Ford’s Trojan Horse-Opry,” Richard Oulahan, Life, November 27, 1964

“The Old Wrangler Rides Again,” Bill Libby, Cosmopolitan, March 1964

“John Ford: Hollywood’s Living Legend,” Dan Scannell, Westward, August-September 1961

“Greatest Films of All Time,” Sight & Sound Magazine, 2022

“John Ford in Monument Valley,” Todd McCarthy, American Film, May 1978

“The Current Cinema: John Ford,” Penelope Gilliatt, New Yorker, September 8, 1975

“Joan Didion: Staking Out California,” Michiko Kakutani, New York Times, June 10, 1979

“John Wayne: A Love Song,” Joan Didion, Slouching Towards Bethlehem

“John Wayne and the Six Security Men,” Farran Smith Nehme, Self-Styled Siren, August 19, 2022

“John Wayne: Playboy Interview,” Playboy, May 1971

“Films,” Andrew Sarris, Village Voice, May 26, 1966

“The Case of John Ford Advances at MOMA,” Andrew Sarris, Village Voice, September 15, 1975


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Still from 7 Women, 1965, MGM

Music:
The music used in this episode, with the exception of the intro, was sourced from royalty-free music libraries and licensed music collections. The intro includes a clip from the film Casablanca.  

Excerpts from the following songs were used throughout the episode:

"Base Camp” - K2

"Calisson” - Confectionery

"Respite” - Desert Kalimba

"Two Dollar Token” - Warmbody

“Coquelicot” - Magenta

“Slimheart” - Bitters

“Stretch of Lonely” - Truckstop

“Four Count” - Reflections

“Cinema Pathetic” - Banana Cream

“Ewa Valley” - Cloud Harbor

“Suzy Textile” - Cloud Harbor

“Asian Relax (New Age)” - Musique Libre de Droit Club

“Pukae” - Cloud Harbor

This episode was written, narrated, edited and produced by Karina Longworth.

Our editor this season is Evan Viola.

Research, production, and social media assistant: Brendan Whalen.

Logo design: Teddy Blanks.

Right to left: Dennis Hopper, John Ford, and John Huston in 1971. Photo by Victor Strebneski

Flashback: Peter Bogdanovich and the Woman Behind the Auteur by Karina Longworth

Peter Bogdanovich and Polly Platt c. 1968 | Photo by Bruce McBroom via mptvimages

Peter Bogdanovich and Polly Platt c. 1968 | Photo by Bruce McBroom via mptvimages

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This episode was originally released on June 3, 2020. Listen to help prep for the next episode of our new season, The Old Man is Still Alive.

After the death of her first husband and creative partner, Polly moves to New York, where she swiftly meets and falls in love with Peter Bogdanovich. Together Polly and Peter build a life around the obsessive consumption of Hollywood movies, with Polly acting as Peter’s Jill-of-all-trades support system as he first ingratiates himself with the previous two generations of Hollywood auteurs as a critic/historian, and then makes his way into making his own films. Together, Polly and Peter write and produce Targets, Bogdanovich’s first credited feature, and also collaborate on a documentary about the great director John Ford. By the time Polly gives birth to their first daughter, she believes she and Peter are an indivisible, equal creative partnership — regardless of how credit is distributed in Hollywood. 

Peter and Polly in England, c. 1965 | Photo courtesy of Antonia Bogdanovich

Peter and Polly in England, c. 1965 | Photo courtesy of Antonia Bogdanovich

SHOW NOTES: 

Sources specific to this episode:

This season is based in large part on Polly Platt's unpublished memoir, It Was Worth It, excerpted with the permission of Sashy Bodganovich.

 This episode includes excerpts from interviews with: Jules Fisher, Sashy Bogdanovich, Barbara Boyle, Fred Roos, Frank Marshall, Peggy Steffans and Rachel Ambramowitz. 

 Here is a full list of sources referenced on this season

Boris Karloff and Peter Bogdanovich in Targets c. 1968

Boris Karloff and Peter Bogdanovich in Targets c. 1968

Music:

The music used in this episode, with the exception of the intro, was sourced from royalty-free music libraries and licensed music collections. The intro includes a clip from the film Casablanca.  

Excerpts from the following songs were used throughout the episode: 

Trust In Fate - Julien Guillaume Yves Bonneau, François Rousselot
Play Smart - Franck Sarkissian
Hazy Nights - Various Composers
Without You Crooner - Franck Sarkissian
Strain Therapy - Massimo Catalano, Remigio Ducros
Silver Bullet - Elliot Holmes
Tooth Fairy - Various Composers
Sunset - Kai Engel
Suspicious Cat - Ilan Moshe Abou, Thierry Oliver Faure
Low Horizon - Kai Engel
Locked Minds - Walt Adams
Rite of Passage - Unknown Composer
Stripper - Geoffrey Peter Gascoyne
The Call of the Sea (Piano Only) - John Paul Labno
Nashville Girl - Various Composers
I Knew A Guy - Unknown Composer
Piano Sonata in C Minor
Ready to Love - Various Composers

Peter Bogdanovich and John Ford on the set of Bogdanovich's documentary Directed by John Ford

Peter Bogdanovich and John Ford on the set of Bogdanovich's documentary Directed by John Ford

Credits:

This episode was written, narrated and produced by Karina Longworth.

Featuring special guest Maggie Siff as the voice of Polly Platt.

Research and production assistant: Lindsey D. Schoenholtz.

Social media, transcription and additional research: Brendan Whalen.

Transcription and additional research: Kristen Sales and Wiley Wiggins

 Produced and edited by Tomeka Weatherspoon.

 Audio engineers: Jared O'Connell, Andrea Kristins and Brendan Byrnes.

 Supervising Producer: Josephine Martorana.

 Executive Producer: Chris Bannon.

Logo design: Teddy Blanks.

Fritz Lang 1959-1970 (The Old Man is Still Alive, Part 2) by Karina Longworth

Fritz Lang from an interview with William Friedkin, 1975

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In the mid-1930s, Fritz Lang fled Hitler and left a successful film career in Germany behind to come to America. After a 20 year career in Hollywood, Lang went back to a much-changed Germany to make two films that he had first developed in the 1920s, set in India but largely cast with non-Indian performers in brownface. Even Lang’s collaborators were concerned that these films, The Tiger of Eschnapur and The Indian Tomb, were politically incorrect and out-of-date. How did the director behind some of the most influential films ever made end up here, and how can we understand his late movies – and his appearance as himself in Jean-Luc Godard’s Contempt – as the culmination of all that came before?

Still from Der Tiger von Eschnapur, 1959, Fritz Lang, Director

Fritz Lang and Jean-Luc Godard

Music:
The music used in this episode, with the exception of the intro, was sourced from royalty-free music libraries and licensed music collections. The intro includes a clip from the film Casablanca.  

Excerpts from the following songs were used throughout the episode:

"Temperance” - Eltham House

"Cran Ras” - Vermouth

"Krok” - Simple Machines

"Blue Feather” - Kevin MacLeod

“Borough” - Molerider

“Peaceful Piano” - Musique Libre de Droit Club

“Jat Poure” - The Sweet Hots

“Song at the End of TImes” - Limoncello

“The Maison” - Desjardins

“Cobalt Blue” - Marble Run

“Coquelicot” - Magenta

“El Tajo” - Cholate

“Heather” - Migration

“Mosic” - Textiles

“Vdet” - Fjell

“Gale” - Migration

This episode was written, narrated, edited and produced by Karina Longworth.

Our editor this season is Evan Viola.

Research, production, and social media assistant: Brendan Whalen.

Logo design: Teddy Blanks.

Fritz Lang in a 1972 interview

Frank Capra 1959-1971 (The Old Man is Still Alive, Part 1) by Karina Longworth

Frank Capra Interview | Cinema Showcase (January 30, 1979)

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The director of It’s a Wonderful Life, who won five Oscars in the 1930s for films that embodied the pre-World War II notion of American exceptionalism, was pushed into semi-retirement by the early 50s by changes in tastes and political priorities. Capra was brought back to the Hollywood director’s chair by Frank Sinatra in the 1960s, but Capra quickly became embittered by an industry that he felt had left him behind, and in 1971 published an autobiography airing grievances about an industry that he believed was “stooping to cheap salacious pornography in a crazy bastardization of a great art to compete for the 'patronage' of deviates and masturbators.”

SHOW NOTES:  

Sources:

Five Came Back by Mark Harris

Frank Capra: The Catastrophe of Success by Joseph McBride

Fay Wray and Robert Riskin: A Hollywood Memoir by Victoria Riskin

“Profiles: Thinker in Hollywood,” Geoffrey T. Hellman The New Yorker, February 24, 1940

The American Cinema: directors and directions 1929-1968 by Andrew Sarris

“Sinatra, Sellers, Matthau: One Weekend, Fifty Stars!” by Kim Goodrich, American Movie Classics Magazine, July 1998

Hollywood: The Oral History by Jeanine Basinger and Sam Wasson

“Capra Production Packs Plenty of B.O. Appeal; Well-Acted” by Jack Moffitt, Hollywood Reporter, May 19, 1959

“Capra Once Again Shoots For Laughs” by Philip K. Scheuer, LA Times, November 28, 1958

“Return of a Native: Mr. Capra Does it With A Hole in the Head” by Bosley Crowther, NY Times, June 26, 1959

Sinatra: The Chairman by James Kaplan

The Name Above the Title by Frank Capra

“Crusade Forgotten” by Peter Bogdanovich, Frontier, 1959

“Ford, Bette Davis in Upbeat Comedy” by Hedda Hopper, Los Angeles Times, October 18, 1961

“Film Rates Kudos as Uplifting Fare” Hollywood Citizen-News, December 26, 1961

“‘Miracles’ Another Frank Capra Ditto” by Kay Proctor, Los Angeles Examiner, December 26, 1961

“Capra’s Formula for Farce Again Enlivens Movie” by Dick Williams, LA Mirror, December 26, 1961

“Is Sweet Corn of Yore Palatable to Moderns?” by Dick Williams, Los Angeles Times, November 12, 1961

“TradeViews” by Don Carle Gillette, Hollywood Reporter, 11-15-61


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Frank Sinatra and Eleanor Parker in Frank Capra's  A Hole in the Head, 1959

Frank Sinatra and Eleanor Parker in Frank Capra’s A Hole in the Head, 1959

Music:
The music used in this episode, with the exception of the intro, was sourced from royalty-free music libraries and licensed music collections. The intro includes a clip from the film Casablanca.  

Excerpts from the following songs were used throughout the episode:

"Temperance” - Eltham House

"Au Coin de la Rue” - Marco Raaphorst

"Coquelicot” - Magenta

"House of Grendel” - Lemuel

“True Blue Sky” - Bitters

“Vdet” - Fjell

“Gusty Hollow” - Migration

“Guild Rat” - El Baul

“Base Camp” - K2

“Kalsted” - Lillehammer

“Levanger” - Lillehammer

“Vik Fence Haflak” - The Fence

“Rasteplass” - Oslo

This episode was written, narrated, edited and produced by Karina Longworth.

Our editor this season is Evan Viola.

Research, production, and social media assistant: Brendan Whalen.

Logo design: Teddy Blanks.

Frank Capra on The Dick Cavett Show in 1972. From Left to Right: Peter Bogdanovich, Dick Cavett, and Frank Capra

Flashback: The African Queen, Humphrey Bogart and Katharine Hepburn by Karina Longworth

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This episode was originally released on March 1, 2016. Listen to help prep for the next episode of our new season, The Old Man is Still Alive.

In the late 1940s, as the country was moving to the right and there was pressure on Hollywood to do the same, Katharine Hepburn, Humphrey Bogart and John Huston all protested HUAC in ways that damaged their public personas and their ability to work in Hollywood. Hepburn’s outspokenness resulted in headlines branding her a "Red" and, allegedly, audiences stoning her films. Bogart and Huston were prominent members of the Committee For the First Amendment, a group of Hollywood stars who came to Washington to support the Hollywood Ten -- and lived to regret it. With their career futures uncertain, the trio collaborated on the most difficult film any of them would ever make, The African Queen.

Show notes:

Here is a list of published sources that the entire season draws from:

The Red and the Blacklist: An Intimate Memoir of a Hollywood Expatriate by Norma Barzman

Dalton Trumbo: Blacklisted Hollywood Radical by Larry Ceplair and Christopher Trumbo

Trumbo: A biography of the Oscar-winning screenwriter who broke the Hollywood blacklist by Bruce Cook

When Hollywood Was Right: How Movie Stars, Studio Moguls, and Big Business Remade American Politics by Donald T. Critchlow

Odd Man Out: A Memoir of the Hollywood Ten by Edward Dmytryk

City of Nets by Otto Friedrich

Hollywood Radical, Or How I Learned to Love the Blacklist by Bernard Gordon

I Said Yes to Everything by Lee Grant

Army of Phantoms: American Movies and the Making of the Cold War by J. Hoberman

Naming Names by Victor S. Navasky

Sources specific to this episode:

West of Eden by Jean Stein

By Myself and Then Some by Lauren Bacall

Tough Without a Gun: The Life and Extraordinary Afterlife of Humphrey Bogart by Stefan Kanfer

Kate: The Woman who was Hepburn by William J. Mann

Me: Stories of My Life by Katharine Hepburn

An Open Book by John Huston

John Huston: Courage and Art by Jeffrey Meyers

“As Bogart Sees it Now” Milwaukee Journal, December 3, 1947

I’m No Communist” by Humphrey Bogart, Photoplay, May 1948

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Special thanks to our special guest, Rian Johnson, who reprised his recurring role as John Huston.

This episode included excerpts from the following videos:

Episode 1 of Hollywood Fights Back:

The Committee for the First Amendment was an action group formed in September 1947 by actors in support of the Hollywood Ten during the hearings of the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC). It was founded by screenwriter Philip Dunne, actress Myrna Loy, and film directors John Huston and William Wyler.

Bogart on Episode 2 of Hollywood Fights Back:

The Committee for the First Amendment was an action group formed in September 1947 by actors in support of the Hollywood Ten during the hearings of the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC). It was founded by screenwriter Philip Dunne, actress Myrna Loy, and film directors John Huston and William Wyler.

Katharine Hepburn’s speech at the May 1947 Henry Wallace rally:

In 1947, Katharine Hepburn got involved in politics when she gave a speech on May 19 during the Henry A. Wallace tour, the Progressive Party's presidential candidate. Afterwards, she was labeled a communist by certain newpapers and accused of attending communist meetings and raising money for them.

Humphrey Bogart’s Oscar acceptance speech:

Humphrey Bogart wins the Oscar for Best Actor for The African Queen at the 24th Academy Awards. Greer Garson presents the award; hosted by Danny Kaye.

This episode was edited by Henry Molofsky, and produced by Karina Longworth with the assistance of Lindsey D. Schoenholtz. Our logo was designed by Teddy Blanks

Introducing: The Old Man is Still Alive by Karina Longworth

John Ford by his Pool in Bel Air dressed in his Admirals uniform, 1973. Photo by Allan Warren

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A preview of the new season of You Must Remember This, which covers the late careers of Alfred Hitchcock, John Ford, Howard Hawks, Vincente Minnelli and ten other directors who began their careers in the silent or early sound eras, and were still making movies in the 1960s, ‘70s and ‘80s, in spite of the challenges posed by massive cultural changes and their advanced age. In this mini-episode we’ll discuss the parallels between this history and today, from the tech industry takeover of Hollywood to the late work of Coppola and Scorsese; the interview with George Cukor that inspired the title of this season; the Orson Welles-Peter Bogdanovich-Quentin Tarantino connection that informs the way we think about “old man” movies, and much more.

An older man (Vincente Minelli) and younger woman (Liza Minelli), both in the height of 70s fashion, her in a sort of leisure suit with a scarf tie, and him in a black suit and light tie

VIncente Minnelli with daughter Liza Minnelli, 1978

Music:
The music used in this episode, with the exception of the intro, was sourced from royalty-free music libraries and licensed music collections. The intro includes a clip from the film Casablanca.  

Excerpts from the following songs were used throughout the episode:

"Coquelicot” - Magenta

"Cloud Line” - K4

"Cobalt Blue” - Marble Run

"Bask VX” - Limoncello

This episode was written, narrated, edited and produced by Karina Longworth.

Our editor this season is Evan Viola.

Research, production, and social media assistant: Brendan Whalen.

Logo design: Teddy Blanks.

Frank Capra on Late Night with David Letterman, November 22, 1982